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  • jahnu 2 hours ago
    One thing worth noting is our popular notion of what a star seems to be is quite different from what astronomers have.

    One example, Canis Majoris has a radius of about 1420 solar radii. But its mass is roughly 17±8 times the mass of the Sun and therefore an average density of 5.33 to 8.38 mg/m3. “It is over 100.000 times less dense than Earth’s atmosphere at sea level.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VY_Canis_Majoris

    https://nineplanets.org/vy-canis-majoris/

    • margalabargala 12 minutes ago
      > therefore an average density of 5.33 to 8.38 mg/m3

      That's nuts. How on earth does fusion happen at that density? Is there a denser core that actually fuses, and the outer fluffy bits just glow from the inner heat?

      • adrianN 6 minutes ago
        Averages are quite misleading. The core is obviously a lot denser. Our sun has an average energy output per cubic meter that is comparable to a compost heap.
    • Sharlin 1 hour ago
      The surface radius of a star is defined based on optical thickness. If you were there, the star would in fact look like a fairly well-defined opaque spheroid with the reported radius. The density of the photosphere plasma is near zero, but there’s a lot of it.
    • FranOntanaya 1 hour ago
      I always wonder when do they stop considering the outer layers part of the star and not relatively dense solar wind soup. Nobody says Earth has 7000km radius, even tho there's traces of exosphere past 500km.
      • antognini 48 minutes ago
        The outer boundary is the point where a photon has a ~50% chance of escaping without encountering another particle.
    • usrnm 2 hours ago
      My layman definition of what a star is is "it's somewhere in the sky and it gives off light". The word "density" wouldn't even come to my mind
    • dpriddle 2 hours ago
      Yes and no. It’s fluffy on the outside, but at the core it’s likely denser than our sun.
  • benji-york 48 minutes ago
    Any decent human being would have called these Black Hole Suns.
    • vardump 9 minutes ago
      I just twisted my mouth sides upwards with my fingers to form a smile in agreement.
  • JumpCrisscross 49 minutes ago
    Is there an experiment that could resolve this? Literally resolve these objects better, or otherwise distinguish between these hypotheses?

    Is there anything behind these objects they could lens?

  • ck2 48 minutes ago
  • debo_ 2 hours ago
    Soundgarden was apparently prophetic with their hit song "Black Hole Sun."
    • TimeBearingDown 2 hours ago
      May Chris Cornell rest in peace. He should have seen this.