7 comments

  • xnorswap 1 hour ago
    At this point, any package adding a pre-install hook where there previously was not one should be denied and treated with extreme suspicion.

    It's time pre-install / post-install hooks were killed off. Start with a moratorium on any new ones.

    • insanitybit 32 minutes ago
      You'll just end up with people running `./configure` scripts or whatever instead. The solution I've currently landed on is:

      1. Audit build scripts/ proc macros for rust code (and mark with cargo-vet).

      2. Have an isolated workflow for "build/test/push artifact to temporary place" (s3, github artifact, whatever). No API keys in this workflow.

      3. Have another workflow that has the API keys to publish that grabs the artifact and then places it into a registry.

      This creates clear separation of "code runs here" and "environment has privileges".

      In my own slop-driven programming language I have build scripts declare their capabilities upfront so that you can statically reason about them (same with runtime permissions).

    • jitl 33 minutes ago
      yeah but they can just put the dropper, etc in index.js, so that it runs at import time rather than at install time, no? i guess first-install time is often a privileged developer machine, and will execute in a "server"-like runtime such as Node, Bun, Deno. but blocking preinstall scripts is basic first aid...
      • sysguest 3 minutes ago
        well Deno has the necessary ingredients for defense: file-system permission by path
      • jerf 31 minutes ago
        Nobody is claiming this is a complete solution to security. I would call this "necessary but not sufficient". You won't get far as an engineer if you refuse to implement "necessary but not sufficient" changes because the change doesn't in and of itself one-shot the entire problem.
        • rcxdude 15 minutes ago
          The fact that it's not sufficient also largely means it's not necessary either, because the real solution is auditing and trusting the codebase as a whole. All you do when disabling install hooks is make a lot of situations much more difficult to handle.
          • jitl 6 minutes ago
            "make no mistakes" is not the "real solution"
            • rcxdude 1 minute ago
              Neither is 'close the gate with no fence on either side of it'. If you want to run code, you either need to run it in a sandbox or trust it.
    • mechazawa 1 hour ago
      iirc does pnpm not allow them by default. But even if we killed them off there would still be a chance of the malware hooking into something else or only working in cli applications.
  • codeduck 12 minutes ago
    Oh boy, it's a big one.
  • mittermayr 1 hour ago
    Does anyone happen to have a grep or similar that helps me check if this is showing up anywhere in the trillions of files in node_modules (or pnpm store)?
    • rhdunn 28 minutes ago
      The what happened section mentions the addition of the `setup.mjs` and `Math_Symbol.js`, along with a change in `package.json` to add `"preinstall": "node setup.mjs"`, so presumably checking for any of those would be a good indication to check further.

      For example:

          find . -type f | grep -P "/Math_Symbol\.js$"
    • orheep 23 minutes ago
      find . -type d -name node_modules -prune -exec find {} \( -name setup.mjs -o -name math_init.js -o -name Math_Symbol.js \) \; 2>/dev/null
  • cute_boi 24 minutes ago
    I think npm can use chatgpt/claude for each published package to detect these types of attack? And if it sees they can restrict the package from making any changes.
    • wolfi1 3 minutes ago
      the remedy is worse than the disease
  • ftlps 1 hour ago
    aikido.dev: SAST, AI code analysis and therefore a website that uses 100% CPU and prevents scrolling.

    To the point of the article: I don't know why GitHub still allows the release feature. It is complete insanity. Tar archives must be constructed manually and checked for leaked keys etc.

  • avaer 1 hour ago
    I am kind of surprised GitHub doesn't seem to have built a simple classifier for public repos to proactively lock the account of anyone uploading such obviously fishy things (for their own good, at least before the repo is publicly findable), so it can't be used as a rendezvous.

    Surely Github's software is good enough that an intern can slop the 80/20 together in a day? It would be an actually good use of AI spending.

    • abhisek 47 minutes ago
    • hulitu 58 minutes ago
      > I am kind of surprised GitHub doesn't seem to have built a simple classifier for public repos to proactively lock the account of anyone uploading such obviously fishy things (for their own good, at least before the repo is publicly findable), so it can't be used as a rendezvous.

      Maybe that's the idea. Regards, the <insert your favourite 3 letter agency here>

  • vlovich123 1 hour ago
    > Update — August 4, 2026, 13:37 CEST: At least 868 packages (across 1381 versions) have been compromised by the worm, with a combined total of over 2 billion monthly installs at the time of writing.

    This is such lazy or click baiting writing. Who cares how many installations there are per month normally? The high install numbers are almost certainly from running in CI where such secrets don’t exist. How many installs actually occur in a non CI environment and of those how many were the compromised version?

    • insanitybit 1 hour ago
      > almost certainly from running in CI where such secrets don’t exist.

      CI usually has the most privileged secrets anywhere in a company lol

      • TeMPOraL 1 hour ago
        CIs having per-package installs : version ratio > 1 are fundamentally dumb idea in the first place.

        In a way, this teaches us that there is something as too much reliability in an ecosystem. Specifically, Github is apparently reliable enough that its occasional outages are insufficient to kill all the companies running these dumb CI setups that redownload packages from the Internet every build - so there's no incentive to reduce waste and improve security globally.

        • rcxdude 11 minutes ago
          Redownloading and automatically updating to the new version are pretty orthogonal. You can have a solution which caches the packages but would still update to a new version or a solution which redownloads the (verifiably) same package each time. Vendoring libraries stops both but it's the automatic updates which are the biggest risk factor.