Physicists Solve a Muon Mystery. Now, Old Results Don't Add Up

(quantamagazine.org)

65 points | by ibobev 1 hour ago

3 comments

  • lokimedes 41 minutes ago
    Glad I didn’t spend the last ten years on that problem! As my CERN advisor suggested :)
  • ThrowawayTestr 42 minutes ago
    That's the best part about science.
    • pavel_lishin 40 minutes ago
      I remember reading the Three Body Problem, and thinking to myself: this is implausible. If scientists started getting weird results, they'd be thrilled, not suicidal!
      • Diogenesian 19 minutes ago
        I believe the alien scientists were depressed by the guaranteed collapse of their civilization, not the difficulty of certain differential equations. So it's more like a doctor getting weird results while working on a cure for a pandemic.
        • glenstein 3 minutes ago
          I'm pretty sure they're referring to scientists on Earth.
      • an0malous 33 minutes ago
        The history of scientific revolutions does not support this view
        • tgarrett 2 minutes ago
          I'm a plasma physicist, and personally I love weird results - new mysteries to solve! That said, there are a wide range of personality types out there. And I would also be extremely surprised if the correct solution to the weirdness is, for instance, that the Maxwell equations are broken in some regimes (other than expected quantum corrections, e.g. the Schwinger limit).
        • pavel_lishin 27 minutes ago
          How do you mean? I cannot remember any particular scientific revolution where scientists were suicidal, or even particularly crestfallen.

          Quantum Mechanics is the closest thing I can think of, where Einstein famously refused to accept some of the implications, and where scientists had great disagreements about things like the Copenhagen interpretation and what it means for the actual nature of reality - but I don't think any of them were sad about it.

          • ceejayoz 25 minutes ago
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Marshall had to drink a beaker of Helicobacter pylori because no one would believe it caused ulcers.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis wound up in an insane asylum for suggesting surgeons should wash their hands.

            Scientists get hidebound just like the rest of us, at times.

            • pton_xd 14 minutes ago
              > wound up in an insane asylum for suggesting surgeons should wash their hands.

              Was rejected and mocked by the medical community for his idea, developed a drinking problem and eventually committed to an asylum by his colleagues after having a nervous breakdown. While in the asylum he was beaten by the guards and died from a wound infection ... yikes!!

        • jpk 27 minutes ago
          Yeah. In principal, scientists should be excited by weird results. In practice, though, humans are complex creatures with intellectual and emotional inertia. There's an understandable element of dread when you realize your life's work finds itself on shaky ground.
      • black6 13 minutes ago
        They were getting inconsistent results, not just weird ones. However I agree that suicide probably wouldn't be where they would end up.
      • ck2 25 minutes ago
        well maybe depends how fundamental

        if objects you put on a table started falling through the floor it would be a bit stressful

        lol

        but Dr. Becky gets really excited about all the various "crisis in cosmology" because she knows new science/knowledge will emerge from solving those questions

        and you remind me there's another season coming up in that series, can't wait

        "Is he still in the grandmother’s house? We would like to speak to him."

  • colechristensen 14 minutes ago
    I really dislike the writing style of being so "friendly" for people who don't know anything about the space that you obscure what the topic of the article is at all.

    It's a third of the way through the article when "g-2", the problem at hand, is mentioned. Information that should have been shared in the title took a third of the article to figure out.

    • gloryjulio 1 minute ago
      Yep. This would backfire spectacularly for people just want to know what's going on. They would just dump the article in the llm and ask, 'what problem is this article about'