The operating cost starts after the demo

(twoheads.net)

25 points | by hellokfk 4 days ago

5 comments

  • killiancarroll 58 minutes ago
    Well put, and I think the problem extends beyond agentic systems to regular software. Someone in an organisation whips up a useful product, publishes it and is now on the hook for bug fixes, feature requests and operations. The maintenance cost is often much larger than the cost of building it now that producing an MVP is so easy.
  • stubbi 15 minutes ago
    I am puzzled your logo is the very same I created for https://mitos.run last week with Claude. I liked to believe it was purposefully created with the brand story of Mitos in mind.

    fwiw here is the chat in which I created Mitos’ logo https://claude.ai/share/3ec51c06-be48-4714-82ce-7d401041a9dd

    • Etheryte 9 minutes ago
      Probably one of the most reused and generic patterns in logos, you can find countless sites and businesses with something like that.
      • stubbi 8 minutes ago
        Then it might be my perception bias that I only realize now!
    • Geezus_42 3 minutes ago
      Its a grayscale version of the Mastercard logo...
  • shibaprasadb 59 minutes ago
    Writing about the operating cost of AI tools while the whole article is a complete AI slop. :)
    • 8-prime 44 minutes ago
      Whether written with AI or not, I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment that it's AI slop. We too often only categorize between no AI used and AI slop.

      Does them using AI to write the article invalidate the points stated in any way? I personally don't think so. I too am weary of constant bombardment with AI but at the same time being against something just because AI was in the loop isn't much better, if at all.

      • shibaprasadb 36 minutes ago
        I see no issues in articles where AI was in the loop or made the article better than it otherwise would have been. Why not?

        But if 100% is generated by AI - and you just prompted it - then I would like to avoid that piece. Personally.

      • kombookcha 6 minutes ago
        If it wasn't worth writing for the author, it won't be worth reading for you and I. If you have a point to make, putting it into word is part of how you structure and understand it yourself. I would much rather read a point imperfectly made by a person, than a bunch of algo-noise around the fuzzy outline of a point that nobody has thought through.

        If you value your finite human time and attention you have to somehow sift through the deluge of slop and the simplest, most effective filter is to immediately ditch anything that fails the slop sniff test. You are not owed readers.

      • owebmaster 26 minutes ago
        > We too often only categorize between no AI used and AI slop

        We do not. You might have not noticed but we don't discuss the use of AI when nobody notices that AI was used.

        • 8-prime 20 minutes ago
          Yeah of course not. When nobody notices, then there is nothing to discuss. Otherwise it would just be conjecuture. And by that logic anything where AI is noticable would be categorizable as AI slop. Which is exactly what I'm criticizing
          • brazukadev 7 minutes ago
            don't post slop then. If AI is noticeable, it is AI slop.
  • tatsuya-tamaya 57 minutes ago
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