Life and work is not meant to be spent in isolation

(46elks.com)

37 points | by jlundberg 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • jdw64 17 minutes ago
    I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.
    • tetris11 1 minute ago
      I gave away an old switch to a guy on Gumtree. He mentioned he was building a machine cabinet. We got talking. He's now my home lab shoptalk guy, and we meet in the pub every other month.

      I gave away an old smartphone to a guy in gumtree. We got talking. He's now my 3D printer shop talk guy, and we meet at the pub every other month.

      It's surprisingly easier to foster your own hacker space if you trade goods in those circles

    • 8-prime 13 minutes ago
      I found great enjoyment from https://late.sh/. I'm not as active as I would like to be but the small community is still active enought that there is basically always someone around to chat with.
      • jdw64 4 minutes ago
        thanks!
    • ZaoLahma 6 minutes ago
      I (software engineer) have lived with a software engineer for 14 years. We (half jokingly, somewhat seriously) refer to non-software engineers as "real persons", or human-humans.
    • wouldbecouldbe 8 minutes ago
      In most places there are software meetups, in my area there are many at meetup.com. I once started one myself, that later got taken over and is still quite big. Actually a lot of fun, and at the time we would even get sponsoring offers quite quickly.
      • jdw64 5 minutes ago
        I don't have that kind of gathering on side. There are no programming meetups. It's an industrial area. My job mostly involves programming equipment operation using WinForm and WPF. I sometimes wish there were such meetups too. Around here, it's all factories
  • chrishill89 37 minutes ago
    I wrote an essay and sent it to Chomsky once. He wrote back that he probably won't have time to read it.

    Some years ago I realized that I can just start sending emails to an OSS mailing list. Without introduction just starting to post as if I belonged there. I had already made some grammar fixes more than five years before that but I started to comment and critique submissions. And submitting my own patches. Now checking the mailing list is daily habit. Unfortunately I didn't have time to post the second version of a submission on the bus today (another documentation fix).

    People, and especially in my culture, are very good at staying out of places where they do not belong through self-policing alone. Unfortunately to the point where at least I do get stuck in narrow patterns and never even consider certain opportunities.

  • rTX5CMRXIfFG 11 minutes ago
    I constantly wonder what life was like, then, for the earliest inventors, scientists, and curious minds in our history. Surely they didn't have many people to bounce ideas or build things with. How did they find the strength to persist in their interests? These days, it's far easier to quit when you cannot find community since you can distract yourself with many kinds of entertainment instead; and with bleak economic outlook everywhere, the very act of persistence itself can feel rather pointless.
    • Leptonmaniac 3 minutes ago
      I would say that a big part of research in Ye Old Days was either your local peers and colleagues but especially it was exchanging letters with the known Big Names in their respective fields. It is not without reason that nowadays that correspondence between researchers is a great source of insight.
    • johngossman 6 minutes ago
      They wrote a lot of letters to each other. That's effectively how the Royal Society started, as the formalization of a network of letter writers
  • ainiriand 42 minutes ago
    When I started working in software I took a job in a city different than mine, so I had to go there to live alone, and the job was by myself in a room with no windows. Most lonely 2 years of my life.
  • nkjoep 14 minutes ago
    Amazing how these people are even reachable via phone, their numbers are pretty easy to find.
  • jlundberg 46 minutes ago
    I wrote an email to Mike Pall once and got a very refreshing reply.

    Daniel Stenberg is not on the list but he is also a very active programmer on social media like LinkedIn that you can interact with.

    • abc123abc123 15 minutes ago
      This is the way! Email is great. I've written to many famous people, and from time to time, gotten replies. I've sold SaaS and consultants for 100s of k of USD, all through emails. It's an elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
  • Dotcomico 18 minutes ago
    The point about self-policing keeping us out of places we belong hits hard. Imposter syndrome makes isolation feel safe, but just jumping in and participating is where real growth happens.
  • charcircuit 7 minutes ago
    Why stop at these people. You might as well reach out to Elon Musk, Tim Cook, and Jansen Huang. There's more to life than tech companies. Why not reach out to the president. It takes less effort than you might think to reach out to anyone in the world. It is truly a small place.
  • mickyarun 1 hour ago
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