Exit IP VPN servers mitigation rollout

(mullvad.net)

86 points | by Cider9986 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • john_strinlai 1 hour ago
    it should probably link to this: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/exit-ip-fingerprinting-between-v...

    which is the blog post, rather than a list of exit servers

    related to this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48143880

    • opem 36 minutes ago
      The page already contains link to both of these resources
      • john_strinlai 13 minutes ago
        right. but one of those resources contains much more context than the other, making it much more suitable for the submission link.
  • willis936 3 minutes ago
    Is this at all related to Wyden's recent congressional warning? Are any other VPN providers speaking up on this?

    https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_g...

  • mjevans 39 minutes ago
    I'd really like some version of E.G. Librewolf configured to spoof the exact SAME information no matter who's using it. Like standard resolution for a 1080p monitor, the same GPU profile, Allow device timing stuff to work but with a fixed profile etc.

    Effectively, stop spoofing random data, start spoofing still useful but not for finger printing data.

  • andrewstuart 54 minutes ago
    Do VPNs pay retail ISPs for exit points?
    • TkTech 43 minutes ago
      No, not usually. Few ISPs are willing to risk blacklisting.

      Just like scrapers (and a lot of VPNs are quietly using their custom VPN clients to sell your own IP [and data] to scrapers) it's mostly a "don't ask don't tell" situation for IP sourcing. You use a multitude of IP providers and if a scandal happens you just say "We didn't know!" and move on to the next. Almost always grey-market, very rarely through legitimate providers.

      • r_lee 12 minutes ago
        why is this downvoted? I'm not aware of a single ISP that would willingly let VPN providers use their ip blocks for their exit nodes
        • john_strinlai 2 minutes ago
          >why is this downvoted?

          mullvad is beloved by many.

          if you read the above comment quickly, you may assume that they are saying that mullvad surreptitiously harvests user data and sells it.

    • dtech 41 minutes ago
      Not retail ISPs, but many extensions and free VPNs route VPN traffic through the connections of those who use them.
      • joxdosba 37 minutes ago
        This isn’t correct, the residential IPs are a completely separate and vastly more expensive product.
        • preinheimer 1 minute ago
          I mean, most “residential proxy” providers are selling access to hacked devices, or sneaky plugins

          https://medium.com/@xianghangmi/resident-evil-understanding-...

        • giobox 33 minutes ago
          One such extension, https://www.tuxlervpn.com/faq/:

          > Will other users of tuxlerVPN be able to connect using my IP address?

          "When you use our free residential VPN, you automatically agree to add your IP address into the community pool. This means that you are trading your own IP address in return for the ability to connect via the IP addresses of other users. You can opt out of this by purchasing our premium subscription; once you upgrade to the premium version, your IP address will be removed from our community pool."

  • StackExpress 13 minutes ago
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