Kraftwerk's radical 1976 track

(bbc.com)

59 points | by tcp_handshaker 2 hours ago

12 comments

  • ainch 1 hour ago
    I love Kraftwerk, but contributing to anti-nuclear sentiment in Germany hasn't been a major success. If only more European countries had followed the French example and developed substantial nuclear fleets.
    • 01100011 4 minutes ago
      Like most backward looking judgements these days, such things require understanding the culture and zeitgeist of the mid 70s.

      I'm pro-nuclear as well, but understand that for many decades the "smart" thing to do was to oppose it. I wouldn't expect a musical artist to have a more nuanced opinion than most of their contemporaries.

    • kingleopold 1 hour ago
      coal kills more people, this is a fact. so with blocking nuclear lead to coal, so they indirectly supportered killing thousands, incredible stats really. who said art can't be bad for the public?
      • kev009 8 minutes ago
        A hidden danger of coal is ironically the radioactivity of its waste, which gets put into concrete products and contribute to indoor air quality issues.

        The paranoia around nuclear power is tied to generational fear mongering of governments during the Cold War. The oddest part is why not use safer reactor designs; water reactors make sense for the US Navy and not on land.

    • pepa65 1 hour ago
      What do you mean by "nuclear fleets"??
    • msla 1 hour ago
      Being against nuclear only kept the world on coal longer.
      • rectang 57 minutes ago
        And perhaps meaningfully contributed to a reduction in the quantity of radioactive waste products requiring custodianship on a timescale that humans can barely conceive of let alone commit to or execute responsibly.
        • mgfist 51 minutes ago
          Coal power produces more radiation waste into the environment than nuclear power. That's because nuclear power has this amazing quality where all the waste is neatly packaged whereas burning coal just releases it into the air.

          > requiring custodianship on a timescale that humans can barely conceive of let alone commit to or execute responsibly.

          This is fearmongering. Casing waste in big concrete casks is enough. It's so incredibly overblown that we're willing to burn coal and kill people over it.

      • senectus1 1 hour ago
        only if renewable resources are not considered an option.
  • LeoPanthera 56 minutes ago
    The original version is quite different from the version performed today. The original lyrics refer to the pun of "radioactivity" versus "radio activity", meaning, activity on the radio.

    The new live version refers almost exclusively to the former meaning, and adds "stop" to turn it into a protest song.

    I've seen Kraftwerk live twice, at London's Albert Hall and Berkeley's Greek Theater, both times absolutely amazing. Highly recommended.

    I've often thought they would be the ideal band to perform inside the "Sphere" in Las Vegas.

  • WatchDog 1 hour ago
    If the suggested political impact of this music is to be believed, the music might be one of the biggest environmental disasters of all time.

    Germany has been pretty widely criticized for decommissioning it's nuclear power program, only to replace it with Russian oil.

    • lovemenot 1 hour ago
      >> only to replace it with Russian oil

      with Russian gas.

      • MomsAVoxell 1 hour ago
        s/Russian/American/

        Either way, Germany has perfected the efficient foot bullet, at least.

        I could imagine Kraftwerk devising a stonkin’ “Fußkugel” track, actually ..

    • Barrin92 58 minutes ago
      that would be an odd criticism because we never generated any meaningful amount of electricity from oil (and started importing Russian fossil resources 30 years before we turned nuclear power plants off). The chief source for energy in Germany was coal. Gas is primarily an industry and heating input rather than a source of power generation, gas plants have only become more popular in recent years.

      What replaced all other fossil fuel sources are renewables, which at 50% are now by far the single largest source of energy.

  • jerkstate 12 minutes ago
    It’s a shame they were so anti-nuclear. Best song on that album was Ohm Sweet Ohm.
  • nntwozz 1 hour ago
    Ruckzuck is way more interesting and ahead of its time (1970).

    https://youtu.be/yUFc5QoMG1E

    P.S

    Also check out Ashra - Deep Distance (1976).

    https://youtu.be/BJZ9PVvu9OA

  • alanwreath 1 hour ago
    Only related in awesomeness but whenever I see VLC’s icon I think of Kraftwerk.

    Kraftwerk sounds novel even today, I can’t imagine how it must have sounded 50 years ago.

  • the_arun 1 hour ago
    IMHO Autobahn is still their best.
  • cmrx64 1 hour ago
    The Electronic Harpsichord, same year. must have been an interesting time.
  • xgulfie 1 hour ago
    saving you a click: it's Radioactivity
  • jchip303 9 minutes ago
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